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GIAJJENNO

Roulette trands
« on: December 30, 2018, 06:26:54 PM »
I would like to ask something. If someone could make a softwer, that can include the world all spins together.(billions x billions x billions ) and then set up example that the softwer must find trands ( or simple making own strategy ) in the spins, and with these trands, with this softwer strategy making the best option to make the largest profit the sofwer can make.

Hope its clear , maybe little bit difficult b ut just a science fiction quesrion was, that can be possible doing this?

I know that its no guarantee that after so many many trillion of tons spins the softwer ganarated example 100 million unit profit, the next 100 billion spins will be the same profit or less or more.

But theoritically, this very clever softwer could do the world best system/method/strategy/HG for us.
 
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vitorwally

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2018, 06:49:15 PM »
What you are suggesting might be something like Machine Learning.
You can have a read here: https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php?topic=2309
I posted about it earlier this year, making a similar question. There are a few arguments on the thread I'm leaving that may answer some of your questions. Anything, be free to ask.
 
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GIAJJENNO

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2018, 07:01:16 PM »
I dont think my question is the same like Machine Learning. My thought was that example creating a softwere, where we c an input example 10 billion spins. Based on these spins the softwere, or machine give out us one and best strategy for these spins with a possible largest amount of profits. Including progressions and we can set up the maximum used bankroll for this .
« Last Edit: December 30, 2018, 07:40:07 PM by GIAJJENNO »
 
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scepticus

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2018, 09:56:27 PM »
I am not a fan of testing for millions /  billions  of spins. The more you test the more trends you will find '
I think testing these millions /billions in groups  of 37 and analysing them  may be more beneficial .  Just a thought .
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2018, 10:02:02 PM »
Good thought. Would be good to make this softwer to find the best similar trands in every 37 spin cycle.
 

Third

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 06:28:30 AM »
I dont think my question is the same like Machine Learning. My thought was that example creating a softwere, where we c an input example 10 billion spins. Based on these spins the softwere, or machine give out us one and best strategy for these spins with a possible largest amount of profits. Including progressions and we can set up the maximum used bankroll for this .

This is an application of machine learning that I think is EXTREMELY useful.  Of course it is guaranteed that it is possible to do.  Even though the method that the computer will find may not be directly useful to us because it acts on foreknowledge of the results, by examining the method that it uses CAN help us to learn.

Thank you for the excellent idea regarding the method and the consideration of the number of spins analyzed.  This is very helpful to me because I tend to be intellectually lazy; i.e. too lazy and dull witted to implement my intellectual ideas.
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GIAJJENNO

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2018, 01:14:51 PM »
Anyway, what roulette trands you guys discovered since you play roulette, which goes around and around every time within X spin cycle? I not mean that BS After every red comes one black sometime etc  :D
 

MickyP

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2018, 01:36:39 PM »
A VERY strong TREND that I have taken note of (my reason for only playing B/M tables) is that  no matter what your bet selection is, if you are playing RNG or any computer based roulette you will walk away disappointed.

There is a big difference between playing a B/M table and a computer based game. How can you win against a computer that reads your input and calculates when you should win? Maybe I'm old school but I'd rather play B/M tables as an insignificant player than go up against a computer program. Fair is fair and if I have mastered a method to challenge the table then allow me my due. I take a win and my win attracts others to the table so both the casino and I win.

Walking away at the end of the day with 100 units profit is all I need.
 

Third

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2018, 02:10:27 PM »
Cumulative probability is the secret to roulette.  Its how roulette functions.  It is the cause of the Law of the Third; i.e. the reason the Law of the Third manifests is because the cumulative probability for 37 unique numbers to fall out consecutively is so incredibly beyond conception small, that repeaters and sleepers must manifest instead.  Work with cumulative probability and you will win.
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 08:45:09 AM »
Should l say that all written here is garbage? Maybe at this case it would call all fire on me... right? Yet..  all written here is garbage. And here is why:
- all roulette are different .
- same roulette in different conditions is different.
- what "works" for all cases generalised will not work in specific conditions / roulette device present at the time of real money play ( for reasons mentioned above).
   So yes, you guys look not where money is and post garbage!!! Fire on me.
 

Third

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 09:21:02 AM »
If we follow the output of the wheel, I don't see why our statistical conclusions will not apply.  Every wheel is a RNG just like every other.  The biases that are present on each wheel will make themselves known to us through our tracking, so what's the problem?
 

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 12:14:53 PM »
Regarding trends with regards to Roulette, one of the biggest bankroll killers or liable to put a player on tilt is not recognizing when the short term trend has ended and carrying on betting for it when it's finished. Trends are constantly evolving/vanishing and it takes a very disciplined and focused player to manage this consistently.
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 03:45:41 PM »
If we follow the output of the wheel, I don't see why our statistical conclusions will not apply.  Every wheel is a RNG just like every other.  The biases that are present on each wheel will make themselves known to us through our tracking, so what's the problem?
The problem is that it's up to 7 significant factors affecting system with 36-37 degrees of freedom. If you do not do proper recearch considering all factors involved,  it's simply "Scarry Monster" that you are dealing with. And it bites!!!
   Beliving that b&m roulette is rng is a road to nowhere. It's same as admitting that we can not do anything besides losing( according to rules of the game itself). If roulette is random, all players are automatically losers on the long run. Do not get alarmed with " long run", it comes much more qweak that many expect.
 Choose believe wisely. ....
 
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Third

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2019, 08:36:35 PM »
PSSST!  We win with positive variance!

Maybe you don't need it but we do fine with it, thank you very much! :D
 

scepticus

Re: Roulette trands
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2019, 08:53:53 PM »
If we follow the output of the wheel, I don't see why our statistical conclusions will not apply.  Every wheel is a RNG just like every other.  The biases that are present on each wheel will make themselves known to us through our tracking, so what's the problem?
The problem is that it's up to 7 significant factors affecting system with 36-37 degrees of freedom. If you do not do proper recearch considering all factors involved,  it's simply "Scarry Monster" that you are dealing with. And it bites!!!
   Beliving that b&m roulette is rng is a road to nowhere. It's same as admitting that we can not do anything besides losing( according to rules of the game itself). If roulette is random, all players are automatically losers on the long run. Do not get alarmed with " long run", it comes much more qweak that many expect.
 Choose believe wisely. ....
Mr P
What do you mean By"  36/37 degrees of freedom" ?   ;D