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mr j

Very useful, most won't read it.
« on: December 24, 2018, 03:21:23 AM »
https://gaming.unlv.edu/casinomath.html
Also, what is the HOLD? Most do not want to read this as well, too boring
>> https://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/nv_table_hold.pdf
 
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Third

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2018, 03:43:18 AM »
The article is wrong and I can prove it.  Human beings are entitled to their opinions even if they use mathematics to back it up.  The greatest variance was not in baccarat as stated, it was roulette.  Human beings can be wrong even though they use math.
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2018, 03:55:04 AM »
 :( ....shakes head. Wow, there are people I know that remind me of you. Who? They are like 60 pounds over weight but say they look and feel great. Its called denial. Grading you guys as a GROUP >> 1-10, 10 being the most educated (roulette). As a group, I give you guys a 4. Individually, thats a different story.
You guys refuse to move up the ladder over the months/years. Its not an insult, only an observation and its very strange.
 

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 04:57:32 AM »
An interesting read.  I don't fully understand all the figures presented but it'll serve as good pre-bedtime re-reading material till I have a better understanding.  Thanks for the post. 
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2018, 08:26:09 AM »
There is only one number that matters there..
It's std Dev for roulete. If player show more then that in his game, they gonna be watching more closely . That's why it's good to study roulette on long run and play it on short.
 
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mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 02:06:12 PM »
"That's why it's good to study roulette on long run and play it on short" >> Its fine to play short term BUT..............go to the casino for 5 days and only play 100 spins per. (500 total) OR go one day and play for 500 spins. Its the SAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2018, 09:54:50 PM »
Not really Mr.j. There is an amount of spins required to win average session on any specific play situation. It's similar to palestice DTOP.  Edge takes time to dominate possible negative fluctuations . I had cases where 100 spins produce more losses then wins and 500 was a minimum to win something.
 I normally skip such cases , but they exist. 
 
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mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2018, 10:53:44 PM »
So I cant break the rules. How do I say you are wrong without anyone crying? (lol)
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2018, 11:20:41 PM »
I'm trying to come up with a decent analogy. (lol) Scratch off tickets. Each scratch off is $10 per. The top prize (only prize) is $10,000.Every day you buy 20 of them. Do you think that EACH INDIVIDUAL day of losing is not all connected TOGETHER? Its ALL connected !!!!!! Same odds, same prize....you just have not won yet.
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2018, 11:57:37 PM »
I do not know what you are " trying " , Mr.j
   Looks like you yourself understand that lm right , but somehow you need to win an argument. 
   It's a roulette forum. Let's focus on roulette instead. Merry Christmas to you Mr.j. l wish you to win all your arguments on roulette table instead of public forum. Be luck with you when you need it.
 
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Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2018, 12:35:32 AM »
Not really Mr.j. There is an amount of spins required to win average session on any specific play situation. It's similar to palestice Dobblesteens' DTOP.  Edge takes time to dominate possible negative fluctuations . I had cases where 100 spins produce more losses then wins and 500 was a minimum to win something.
 I normally skip such cases , but they exist.

This is the sort of thing that I am trying to achieve as well.  I have noticed similar phenomenon.  I also cut the bad ones as soon as I am able.
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2018, 12:40:08 AM »
I do not know what you are " trying " , Mr.j
   Looks like you yourself understand that lm right , but somehow you need to win an argument. 
   It's a roulette forum. Let's focus on roulette instead. Merry Christmas to you Mr.j. l wish you to win all your arguments on roulette table instead of public forum. Be luck with you when you need it.

It just drives me crazy (lol) Its like someone saying rain is not wet and I should not reply back (rofl) I cannot believe what I read here, it absolutely blows my mind. Maybe Mike had the right idea.
 

Third

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2018, 12:42:46 AM »
Ok, you say you are not an AP, that means Mike says you must lose.  You accept this?
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2018, 12:48:38 AM »
So are we suppose to argue or not argue per Kav? I'm confused.
 

Third

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2018, 12:50:25 AM »
Its just a conversation.  Mike states that system players who are not using physical causes must lose.  You don't use physical causes and therefore Mike says you must lose, correct?