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FORUMS R.I.P.
« on: October 25, 2018, 05:30:48 AM »
I've some questions which, hopefully, you can help me understand.

1. How possible is an, approximately, 80% of all forums' members to have a long term winning strategy such as yours?

2.Would not that be highly unlikely?

Now this question is not entirely hypothetical but based on my personal observation over the course of years;

3. There are not as many members as they used to be.

4. From the fewer members there is significant less interest in participating on topics regarding strategies and in general about how to win on long term basis than what it used to be on the past.

5. People prefer to discuss more about unrelated subjects rather than contributing all as a team to a mutual and beneficial cause/goal.

6. More minds are able to achieve easier and better than a single alone.

7. Even if you would share a long term winning method, do you think that all gamblers worldwide would read your topic?

8. Do you think that from those who would read it all of them would use it, let alone to the letter??

9. Do you think that casinos would close, stop roulette game, or even change its rules, which have never changed since 1 and a half century ago???

10. What is the real reason behind this behavior?

11. Don't you think that forums are a great mean to connect people worldwide under a common cause/goal?

12. Why they are not focused groups of individuals, instead we see too much blah blah speaking about nothing practically, or about promoting products and services to potential customers?

13. Why when there were important efforts a few persons derailed those topics and from the practical considerations we ended up striving to prove a point, defending our positions from the intruding negativity?

14. If some have found something which works AND don't desire to share it then what on earth are they doing here?

15. If they want to have a conversation and/or pass time then why they don't do it outside forums, with any other persons and/or activities??

To my great disappointment I came to realize that I'm speaking alone and the forums are not being used the way it's meant to be used!
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MickyP

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2018, 06:08:26 AM »
Maybe you've answered your own question about Reyth.

The negativity is a damper and you can add insults to the list. Why would anyone want to openly share and discuss a method if you will be sharing with people who insult you?

DrTalos had a great thread about how he develops his systems but insults and negative comments aimed at him personally resulted in him withdrawing from the discussion.

The recent insult Scepticus made toward Geoffery about his book he is writing has possibly caused Geoffery to not want to openly share his knowledge on the forum.

Members openly state that they will not share a new or "winning" method they have developed (myself included). Why is that? I wonder. Will I share anything new I come up with? NO.
 

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2018, 06:35:53 AM »
Cannot deny the facts you brought forth, unfortunately we conclude that there is no point of bothering seriously, or even not at all.

Yesterday I was reading a report against a member of many forums, that report claimed that the said member (of this forum as well) has scammed another member for 5,000 Euros.
He revealed more information at the other forum where the original thread has been made.
 

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2018, 07:25:15 AM »
There was a 2nd report from different person for the same conman, this one being scammed for 515 Euros.
 

MickyP

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 09:26:17 AM »
Those of us who only frequent this forum are and will be left in the dark regarding your posts above.
Your posts above are serious and this type of allegation should be investigated and if found to be true then the conman should be exposed and dealt with accordingly.
Scary to think it could be anyone on this forum.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2018, 09:53:19 AM »
I'm not sure if it's proper to reveal any details about it.
I'm asking the permission of the administrator.
 

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Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2018, 10:47:00 AM »

Username: junscissorhands

Real name: KA SHING KWOK

Address: REGENBOOG STRAAT 33, 3328 HS DORTRECHT, ZUID-HOLLAND, THE NETHERLANDS

There might also be a link with user "JEKBH".

So far cleaned 1 wire and a Western Union, there is a lead also for another victim, perhaps "Herby" knows because he follows closely "6th sense" who the victim was friend with.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 10:50:15 AM by BlueAngel »
 
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Geoffrey

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2018, 11:53:20 AM »
Real interesting topic BA, some nice food for thought.

I'll come back later today to give you my point of view on your metioned points.

@ MickeyP: Rest assured, i didn't really took it as an insult. Scepticus was just being true to his name (Sceptical). He has every right to be so. Just is a bit of a pity to have like to defend myself because of some thinking i am not more than a sell out. Which i'm absolutely not. It will be adressed somewhere today. Be warned , it will be a long read :)

Ba i hope you can expect a reply on topic from my part within 2 to 4 hours. Have some other things to do and attend to first.
 
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MickyP

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2018, 11:58:01 AM »
Thank you for posting the information BlueAngel.

This will not stop such activities but may slow it down as people become more aware about the potential exposure to scams.

This is exactly why forums exist; to create a platform where knowledge can be shared/exchanged at no cost.

I share a fair amount but some of my methods I will not share. They are protected and are not kept or stored on any device. Not for sale either.
 
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jerome26b

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2018, 02:28:10 PM »
Hi all,

it’s a long time we know Juncissor is an imposter and a scammer and i warned you in this forum with personal messages he sent me in fact explaining his desperate financial situation and begging me for a good system and at the same moment sending an hg of roulette for 500 on another forum. But at that moment i was accused of felony by the same guy. Later on he found suddenly the cwb of charles and posts stereotyp pictures of dollar notes and an expensive watch to show us how much he’s winning. Glad i didn’t fall in this stupid and ... obvious trap. But sad for the victims.

Jerome.
 
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Geoffrey

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2018, 04:05:35 PM »

About point 3-4-5: as of being abscent myself for several months, i have to say, it immediatly became clear that the forum was a lot less animated then it used to. Reyth not being around anymore is a huge loss, he was a great contributor.

6: i agree with this statement.

7 and 8: no because you simply can not share it with all of humanity even if you would want to. So most wont be aware. And evenso the once who do read it, i presume most of those individuals would remain sceptical.

9 no for the simple reason there will always be more losers than winners.

10: you mean the behaviour of not wanting to discuss, nor share info?
well, because it is human nature to think about ourselves  first. We, or the most part, are selfish beings. I guess we are in a way partical programmed to act and behave this way. Most wont share because when we think to have a long time winner on our hands, there is a lot a trial and error behind it. Much money lost the get there, and many hours of work you’ve put into it. When you feel like you finally succeed, most won't handle over their precious baby on a plate and say ‘here you go’. And you cant blame them either.

11 i think alike, but i think the problem is, most dont see it that way, they dont feel like reaching a common goal is the actual target to aim for.

13 thats the main reason why forums end up dying. People always wanna be right. You get into a discussion. Ultimatly it ends up with nothing more than going back and forth about who is right and who is wrong. You get to read a list of arguments why we think the way we do, and the one disagreeing comes back, with the sole purpose to dispute previous statements.

That and the endless discuscions between AP and systems believers is/was sort of a turn off for many. Some do get turned on by endless bragging too i guess.

In fact, it really isn’t about who is right or wrong. I guess it’s an ego problem. It’s just to difficult to say thx for your insight and sharing your idea (even when you dont agree with it) be greatful for the effort someone made. As told before, humans are selfish beings, its always ‘me , me , me’. When you can accomplish so much more in group. Some just dont want to ‘work’ in group. As said before, most dont think in terms of reaching a comman goal. We think ‘I’ want to reach MY goal.

14 honestly asking myself the same question.

 
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scepticus

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2018, 04:18:01 PM »
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" The recent insult Scepticus made toward Geoffery about his book he is writing has possibly caused Geoffery to not want to openly share his knowledge on the forum.

Members openly state that they will not share a new or "winning" method they have developed (myself included). Why is that? I wonder. Will I share anything new I come up with? NO."
  This from a man who insults me and  at the same time, wrongly  accuses me if being insulting !
He insulted me for not sharing  MY  Plan A and then says that HE  wouldn't share  a winning method ( if he had one ) but  I HAVE shared THE GUTS  of what I do  .
Geffrey exposed  Micky Ps  biased  view and he WILL  make at least one long post . My objection was not about Geoffreys ideas but the claim that he can show people HOW to win a MILLION . Anyone  familiar with gambling in all it's forms KNOWS that profiting is NOT easy.THAT was also my objection to Adam Khoo CLEAR claim.
Anyway, Micky . You have yet to deny BA's claim that you are a car seller in  New York and do not live in SA as you claim. Failure to do so  will suggest that you are a liar and I , for one, will not reply to any of your posts .
 
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 04:24:46 PM by scepticus »
 

MickyP

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2018, 06:21:07 PM »
Scepticus, your insinuation about Geoffreys book was an insult. Paint it any way you like, it was/is and remains an insult.

I never insulted you about your plan but I did bring to your attention that you wanted Ken to read something that you confessed to not posting. How may I ask was he supposed to do that?

Where is my view biased?

It doesn't matter where I say I'm from because you wont believe me anyway. How many times have I said that I am not RouletteGhost. Is it because of my support for President Trump that you THINK I am an American?

Now I remember why I banged heads with you in the past. I felt that I was being childish to crash your party whenever I could but the garbage that flows from your mouth is a stark reminder of why I behaved that way towards you. I'm okay with you ignoring me and my posts but I will respond at any mention of me or what I share on this forum.
Have a pleasant evening.
 

Greek

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2018, 06:54:17 PM »
In the beginning, when roulette players became familiar with the internet, they took the opportunity to find people with the same interest. Sharing was contagious as each found common ground. All of the sudden, as human nature collide with different types of views, a line is drawn.

The sense of community now becomes a battle field. Egos, immaturity, emotional reactions, deception, lying, mistrust, etc., comes into play. Instant knowledge, some true, most false. The forum is no longer a venue for learning, sharing, or comradery.

If you come here to find a strategy that will make you money, guaranteed, you will not find it here. However, you will find a bunch of roulette players playing a game of chess to see who will make the next move to discredit another player. I am the Greek. Who among you will start to discredit my contribution?
 

Badger

Re: FORUMS R.I.P.
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2018, 07:27:39 PM »
I am from South Africa and I am in contact with Micky telephonically.
I can confirm that he lives in South Africa and hope to meet up with him in the near future.

I hope this puts the Roulette Ghost conspiracy theory to bed once and for all.

 
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