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ignatus

The Goldking Bet
« on: October 22, 2018, 11:20:49 PM »
Well now, i share my "secret" ...

All im asking IS you help me now test it and find the best progression,

I have tried, the last couple of days to find the best progression,...but it's Not a flatbet winner,..so therefore, only short-term, hit-n-run may work,..

*Note- All my progressions is based on the 3 "core numbers" (numbers 5,8,11, see pic!) So, all progressions are based on these 3 numbers, (and calculating with this, a cycle bet of 12 spins).

To make this beselection *work* you need to find a working progression for this bet

I call this one "Double Attack-Progression"

It's both a positive and negative progression, but Only two steps 1,3 STOP

Basic bet is a total of 2 cycles (2*12=24 spins)

Procedure: Wait for a Virtual hit of any of the "core numbers" (5.8,11) THEN start bet...do 12 spins,(1u bet) IF no hit bet last cycle of 12 spins (3u) IF hit within the last cycle, Begin a new "doubleattack" (1u) same procedure, do 12 spins, if no hit, last cycle 3u ....UNTIL the complete 24 spin cycle is lost (or IF the last cycle bet with 3u is lost) .....but here is the trick; -IF you get a hit at the FIRST cycle, immediatly bet 3u and calculate 12 spins (then Stop).... IF hit within the that last cycle of 3u, begin anew Doubleattack with 1u...etc.. Until a complete loss....THEN STOP and *remove* all bets Restart (wait for a new Virtual Hit before bet again)....


*Any Hit-->Any of the *core numbers hit*

That's it.  8) 


Test 1. (25u bets, Livespins)
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 11:25:24 PM by ignatus »
 
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ptzelepis

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2018, 06:54:03 PM »
I got a little mixed up.
Can you make a small video or explain with numbers please ?
 

ignatus

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2018, 07:31:35 PM »
I got a little mixed up.
Can you make a small video or explain with numbers please ?

No, i can't? you have to be specific on what you don't understand? it's all there, described, the bet and the progression? sry for my bad english, but that's the best way i can explain it? :/
 

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2018, 12:16:20 PM »
I tried your double attack on a random quad selection... using 1 and 4 unit levels with an 8 bet cycle. A starting bank of 4000 units produced around 2000 units in around 20000 spins without significant drawdown. I don't use virtual bets or triggers ever so didn't test them. Largest drawdown was perhaps 600 units. Perhaps three numbers would like 11 bet cycles instead of 12.

Thanks for sharing
 
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Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2018, 01:04:53 PM »
I tested it.

It's horizontal version of Law of third for street. 26,29,32 is also same because it's all in Voisins as 5,8,11 are all in Triers. I do not recommend Orphelins it may take so long...

I add 9 numbers individually when i saw a triger of 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12
I used positive prog. with oscar.

It works.

Thank you.
But nothing special than horizontal of Law of third for street. Even the 12+12 24 cycle is same Ales Method

 
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ahlidap

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2018, 01:11:36 PM »
A starting bank of 4000 units produced around 2000 units in around 20000 spins

0.1 units per spin.
This is simply unreal even for a fast RNG..
40k spins to cover 4000 units, if everything goes well...

Damn.
 

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2018, 02:32:44 PM »
A starting bank of 4000 units produced around 2000 units in around 20000 spins

0.1 units per spin.
This is simply unreal even for a fast RNG..
40k spins to cover 4000 units, if everything goes well...

Damn.

It's slow indeed. Am going to test from 1k unit bankroll.
 

ignatus

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2018, 03:05:40 PM »

Well now! playin around with another progression, i then Notice something Strange? MOST hits, playin the "DoubleAttack-progression" comes within the 2 cycle (24 spins). H0! So what is this?? That's why the original "Doubleattack" was working, BUT NOW- I tried this FLATBET ..and it worked! 

(Although, it seems not to be "winning forever"/ it reach a certain point where higher profit will be hard to get/takes a very long time? so, hit'n run i think  a good wingoal would be somewhere between 1000-2000u (5u bets) (or perhaps lower, depending on your gameplay) That would be: 200-400u (played with 1u bets) Also good thing Flatbet...it will take much more time to have a complete LOSS, (that would be a *slow* process, so you have time to quit before that happens- and walk away atleast with Some profit?

I call this one

Double-Attack FLAT

-ALWAYS wait for a Virtual win before placing bets. (Any hit of the "core numbers")
-When you get a Virtual win, place bets, and do 24 spins. IF Win or Lost (after 24 spins) STOP/Remove bets and wait for a new virtual win, before placing the bets again, and do another "Doubleattack" of 24 spins...and so on

That's it 

(Again, this needs more testings..)

Test 1. (5u bets, Livespins)
 
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MickyP

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2018, 04:56:39 PM »
Ignatus, I'd like to chat privately with you. Your inbox is full; please PM me. Thanks
 

ignatus

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2018, 05:08:36 PM »
Ignatus, I'd like to chat privately with you. Your inbox is full; please PM me. Thanks

my inbox full?? haha  ;D  alright i cleaned it now...
 
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mr j

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2018, 08:52:22 PM »
Ignatus, I'd like to chat privately with you. Your inbox is full; please PM me. Thanks

Whatever happened to your Skype idea?

Ken
 

MickyP

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2018, 12:57:33 AM »
Nothing.
 

ignatus

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2018, 09:43:43 AM »
Well now, i coded this thing, and, now testing different Negative progressions, i think i found somthing?,...from my experience "longer term testings" with negative progressions, the only thing, i think is true, IS
USE a SHORT but AGRESSIVE progression BECAUSE, no matter what negative progression you use, it wiil *Always* lose, soo, by using a short, but agressive progression it will lose, but will recover quicky, And it will in *most cases* reach a nice profit/wingoal (within a short timeframe) before it crash and burn.....

For this bet, it's a 27 step progression, (a 3 step supermartingale), I call it "S9"

RX code


Code: [Select]

system "Goldking S9"

method "main"
begin
   while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7]
              to Record "progression" Data
  end

   Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
   split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
   to Record "Bet1" Layout
   
   Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
   split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
   to Record "Bet2" Layout

  while on each spin
  begin

 If any number bet lost each time
 begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
 end

 If number 5 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet1" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 8 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet1" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 11 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet1" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 26 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet2" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 29 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet2" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 32 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet2" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

        if number 5 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
       end
     
      if number 8 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
        end

     
      if number 11 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 26 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 29 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 32 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end

    If number 5 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 8 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 11 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 26 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 29 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 32 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end

  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "Bet1" Layout
   clear Record "Bet2" Layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    End

  end
END


Test 1-4 (1u bets, Livespins)
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 09:48:14 AM by ignatus »
 

ignatus

Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2018, 07:46:37 AM »
Well now, ran a third test with the "A21" progression, and had a major loss . Alright....so? Was this the End? no? Again, my wisdom came true- "USE a SHORT, but AGRESSIVE Negative progression" ey? How is it possible to turn a losing session into a winner? well, i did it.... point IS -There is no use chasing a losing Bet. A new wisdom "if it's gonna lose, it's gonna lose, no matter what progression you use", so? Let it lose.(cut that bastard, let it go) ...But then "when it's gonna win it's gonna win, Big" This is also true, FOR THIS progression, it's 18 Steps now;

I call it "The X9-progression"

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 STOP

Furthermore, another interesting thing-- A 500u BR IS *too small* for this bet. A minimum BR of 1000u is needed, Why? Because, as you can see from my result, using a 500u- BR you would have *4* Total losses from this session 4*(-500u) BUT with a larger Bank (1000u) now, playin a 250-spin session you see, those 3/4 of those "losing sessions"/ recovered and the losses was reduced, even 1 session turned into a positive BR....Worst from this session was a loss of -640u, so, a TOTAL loss of the 1000u BR never happned Once.....Furthermore, the *best* session with this progression generated a Major profit of +1500u;

Tested  5*10 sessions now, with the X9-progression, *All winners*  8)

calculating wins/losses

Test 1.

wins
+691
+533
+1375
+288
+195
+293

losses
-60
-135
-109
-707

Total= +2364u

===========
Test2.

wins
+1500
+273
+900
+176

losses
(500) -630
-39
(500) -11
(500) +74
-425
(500) -189

Total= +1629u

===========
Test 3.

wins
+464
+278
+155
+47
+1650
+305

losses
-656
-861
(1000) -68
-412

Total= +902u

===========
Test 4.

wins
+783
+1302
+343
+311
+1171
+706
+792

losses
-230
-48
-1161

========
Test 5.

wins
+783
+1302
+343
+311
+1171
+706
+792

losses
-230
-48
-1161

Total= +3969u

=====================

Grand Total= +12833u

RX-Code

Code: [Select]
system "Goldking X9"

method "main"
begin
   while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3]
              to Record "progression" Data
  end

   Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
   split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
   to Record "Bet1" Layout
   
   Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
   split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
   to Record "Bet2" Layout

  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end

 If any number bet lost each time
 begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
 end

 If number 5 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet1" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 8 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet1" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 11 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet1" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 26 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet2" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 29 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet2" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

If number 32 has won each
 begin
 clear Record "Bet2" Layout

 Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end

        if number 5 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
       end
     
      if number 8 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
         end
        end

     
      if number 11 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 26 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 29 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end
       
       if number 32 has Hit each time
       begin
         if Total inside bets count = 0
        begin
         Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
         Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
        end
       end

    If number 5 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 8 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 11 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 26 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 29 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end
   
    If number 32 Lost each time
    begin
       Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
    end

  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "Bet1" Layout
   clear Record "Bet2" Layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    End

  end
END
« Last Edit: October 26, 2018, 07:50:14 AM by ignatus »
 

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Re: The Goldking Bet
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2018, 08:39:41 AM »
You should aim to improve the accuracy of your predictions, try to find out which way the wind is blowing!  ;D