### Author Topic: Prediction methods.  (Read 2882 times)

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#### MickyP

##### Prediction methods.
« on: June 22, 2018, 10:04:09 PM »
Many threads are centred around the ability to predict a possible outcomes normally within a few spins. Judging by the high failure rate in the game it would be fair to conclude that methods of prediction are a players biggest nemesis.

I know MrPerfect has a roulette prediction device that he speaks highly of.

Is the success of prediction limited to AP?

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2018, 11:25:57 PM »
It all can be simplified.  You choose right number ( numbers)- you win. If wrong numbers- you loose. So need to choose right number.
Some numbers are better then expectation, some worst. Wich one category of numbers do you prefer?
How to choose/ predict it's another story.

#### Bebediktus

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2018, 07:17:34 AM »
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So need to choose right number.
That is nice mind, how we all missed it
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How to choose/ predict it's another story.
Here are  any story - all is done accordingly previous events - collect data. look what was best before and have hope that such will be also in future.

The same is everywhere - in poker , in blackjack, in roulette.

Difference is one ,  for example in poker peoples simply remember how behave some player , that is simply easier because are only few different behaviours - throw cards,   call, rise up.

In roulette say such behaviours are minimum 37 , so harder to remember and need to collect data on paper, or somewhere , then do calculations. Peoples are lazy and simply not want that to do.

But that is super good for these few us, who do that  , because if all will do that, we - not be able to win....

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#### Dane

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2018, 09:13:22 AM »
To MrPerfect. "If wrong numbers - you loose".  Inte alls. You are wrong. You LOSE. With only one o
I have pointed that out several times. One o. Almost like roulette - with only one Zero!

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2018, 06:25:37 PM »
Coming back to the topic... Bebedictus has written very correct.. " hope that such will be also in the future...", but is it a sky limit?  Just hope what is left for us? Answer is... yes & no.
For these who just collect stats , hope nothing change is a limit. Although there are profitable players who does it, in general , it's a best way to search for a trouble.  The reason for it is that long term data average results between many different playing conditions.
Roulette is dinamical system where many factors do their affect on the result. Different combination of the factors will/ may  create different distribution of numbers hit. The player able to monitor and model significant factors affecting,  will get better and more stable results.

#### MickyP

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2018, 09:14:53 PM »
Roulette prediction should be part of method testing.
The idea about "accurate prediction" is ever unfolding in a game. If not, then play is speculation or acting on a hunch based on mathematical expectation.
I think the majority of methods are based on expectation and there is very little prediction taking place.
Different tools are introduced into play and used as a watchdog to try and curb losses when expectation fails.
To win big placed bets must be reduced to as few numbers as possible but the less numbers the greater the chance of loss. Hot/repeating numbers occur as an ongoing part of the game but to predict these events and get it right is as questionable as the authenticity of aliens in our airspace.

#### MickyP

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2018, 09:17:36 PM »
When a person asks for a 20 step progression for a 5 number bet; what does this tell you?

#### MickyP

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2018, 09:43:05 PM »
I have been doing a fairly detailed study on triggers from different methods to monitor the frequency of triggers forming. The formation of a trigger is the signal to start betting but if the formation frequency is regular and overlaps then selective (predictive) betting will yield good results as long as the amount of numbers bet is kept to a minimum. Yes, it is playing to expectation but the play is confined to only a few spins per expectation.

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2018, 09:54:45 PM »
When a person asks for a 20 step progression for a 5 number bet; what does this tell you?
Person doesn't need the answer and should avoid playing for now.
Deffencive betting is not good idea in roulette.

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#### mr j

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2018, 10:14:13 PM »
The formation of a trigger is the signal to start betting

It makes zero difference when you start. The H.E. stays CONSTANT. Triggers are a waste of YOUR time, sorry.

Ken

#### MickyP

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2018, 12:19:25 AM »
How do you know when to start betting on a hot number? What TRIGGERS the start of your betting?

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#### mr j

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2018, 01:03:25 AM »
The definition most loons use for triggers is *RELATED* to a virtual "whatever."
You are confusing trigger with virtual. Every bet is technically a trigger. In the future, if you want me to say......Trigger after a virtual "whatever", let me know and I will. Its a little longer but I'll do that in order to keep the peace.

#### mr j

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2018, 01:06:57 AM »
.....one last point, then off to the B&M casino. It would be a GREAT thread topic. The definition(s) of a trigger?
I say there are more than ONE definition. A virtual loss OR EVEN a virtual win.....then start betting for real, is a TRIGGER.

Ken

#### MickyP

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2018, 08:46:17 AM »
When a person asks for a 20 step progression for a 5 number bet; what does this tell you?
Person doesn't need the answer and should avoid playing for now.
Deffencive betting is not good idea in roulette.

Thanks MrPerfect. I asked the question to illustrate my point on the lack of prediction in the game.
I have seen questions like this pop up in different threads and it just serves to confirm that prediction is not a tool used by many many players.
The "run from hell" goes against the grain of expectation. If prediction is/was used then it will have been poorly executed.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2018, 08:58:31 AM by MickyP »

#### MickyP

##### Re: Prediction methods.
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2018, 09:15:16 AM »
A virtual win  / virtual loss is not a trigger. It is the result of a trigger that has been played in the mind and not with chips on the felt. Some players resort to virtual betting to "allow for the bumps in a sequence of numbers" to subside.
Triggers do not work 100% of the time but the high % of hits within a few spins confirms the value of the tool.

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