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thomasleor

Watch VR S2 making +200 units against Platinum Casino
« on: June 21, 2018, 11:24:21 PM »


To ex VRTech pilots. Watch this astounding bird with its unique Double Helix Algorithms, Alpha & Beta, make some really spot on predictions during this live session.

If you as an ex VRTech pilot wish to test-fly this platform,  you have to re-apply to the VRTech forum. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqNcmUu5TIg&feature=youtu.be
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Jake007

Re: Watch VR S2 making +200 units against Platinum Casino
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2018, 12:36:14 AM »
Greetings Thomas,

I have spent the last couple of days reviewing your detailed notes over the past couple years and have a few questions. The system I developed and currently use has some similarities but not many. Ive been focused on corners instead of dozens as the payout is larger. Do you see any faults with this? I can already see one area of problem is that the corners bet is not any type of sector on the wheel.

- So suffice to say your new "VR bird VR S2" is derived from your original Hexagon system?

- Does this system (or previous like hex) use the last 20 numbers each time a new number is picked? Continuous numbers?

- How did you arrive at the number 20 for spins for sufficient information? Was it a calculation or more of trial and error?

- What is the difference between Reyth or others finding a trigger point to begin a betting sequence in comparison with what your software is doing? I see no difference really. Youre using software to find a trigger point and to also tell you when to stop betting or switch sectors. What I can see so far is that what others are doing might be static while yours is more fluid.

- "A spun number in roulette, is per itself a representation of a spatiotemporal event on the wheel." Theoretically, one could say this to be true with online digital roulette (not live play) even though there is no "spinning" or actual wheel. Would you confidently be able to say spatiotemporal events *could* also occur on randomly computer generated numbers? Why or why not?

- You mentioned that you use basic sector probability and partition math and have made a nice tiny chart when playing in real casinos. Would you be interested in sharing this?

I make no assumptions. Thanks so much.

- Jake
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thomasleor

Re: Watch VR S2 making +200 units against Platinum Casino
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2018, 12:53:23 AM »


You have many questions Jake and it is late where I am. Suffice to say the VRTech platforms have evolved lightyears since the first stumbling platforms like Hexagon. It would be to compare an old T-Ford with contemporary Ferrari or Maserati.

I will look closer at your questions tomorrow and return with some hopefully suitable answers. Yet I have one thing to say. Forget any table patterns. Focus entirely on the wheel and try to find a way to predict the most probable sector or sectors the ball will land on.

I also suggest you take a very close view on the latest video which was posted a link here, and is basically the instruction video to my team of Test Pilots over at VRTech.

If anything it will show you the awesome  accuracy in terms of sector prediction from a platform that doesn´t need anything beyond its own powerful algorithms, basis of prediction and the input data from the pilot.

Watch it and learn. See how it is designed. Every aspect of the platform serves a purpose and it is built after the instrument on a fighter jet, because like such a pilot, a VRTech platform user, playing with real money has to be able to make fast readouts and quick decisions based on accurate data and on all that also have time to place his bet on target before the no more bet sign shows up.

All calculations take place in a special section of the platform not visible to the pilot and hence his mind is allowed to assess ongoing game data in cooperation with provided data by the platform. This allows an efficient game, and each session can be played according to a strict and disciplined protocol that still allows much enjoyment.
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Re: Watch VR S2 making +200 units against Platinum Casino
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 04:08:34 PM »
the quoting in this forum didnt work for me so I made my responses to you in blue font.

Jake007


Greetings Thomas,

I ve been focused on corners instead of dozens as the payout is larger. Do you see any faults with this? I can already see one area of problem is that the corners bet is not any type of sector on the wheel.



]In my experience, and research for two decades now, chasing that magical table pattern that one uses as a bet in various modes of bet sequences (many times progressive), are doomed to fail. Why? Because the gambler in this case (not player), is betting blind in terms of most probable sector the ball will stop at.
Here the Casino has a huge EDGE, not only in terms of its negative payout 35:1 and so on, but the Enviromental interference (EI effect) so many gamblers fail to recognize, like short bet windows which makes them unable to asses the situation, think, decide and place their next bet selection on the table. There are also many other tricks the Casino uses to stress the gambler, or generally break his rhythm and hence his strategy and bet discipline, all such things increasing its odds of basically making the game impossible to win on the long run.


"So suffice to say your new "VR bird VR S2" is derived from your original Hexagon system?"

The Hexagon, now a relic from a long gone era in VRTech R&D served as basis for all future platform designs (its fighter instrument panel look). It had a simple formula that didnt hold muster in extreme variance, and also because at that time I didnt even knew then, how to calculate and present a simple real time variance curve, which tody´s  VR platforms easily do giving the testpilot a superior view on the lay of the land, probability wise.

Does this system (or previous like hex) use the last 20 numbers each time a new number is picked? Continuous numbers?

The VR S2 fills a matrix of 40 numbers and then , on a rolling basis, removing the oldest number in that matrix once the latest is fed to the DHA engine. To start playing a session the platform need minimum 15 numbers as to be able to calculate two variance curves which are based on the DHAs predictions versus the spun numbers from the wheel.

How did you arrive at the number 20 for spins for sufficient information? Was it a calculation or more of trial and error?



Years of trial and error from the countless test missions from my fellow test pilots at VRTech.


What is the difference between Reyth or others finding a trigger point to begin a betting sequence in comparison with what your software is doing?

Reyth and many like him on this forum and of course other forums searched for the holy grail in table patterns, like streets double streets, dozens corners and so on.


They didnt have a clue about the current variance of their pattern versus the spun numbers from the wheel at play, nor did they have a variance curve where their bet selections were measured against the same wheel. (There is a difference between knowing how you do against the wheel and deciding when to make a bet against the casino). Here size and timing is as important as a betting strategy.


I knew Reyth loved to play the RNGs and I once warned him that what he played wasnt roulette, it was merely a random selection of numbers, from a probably tweaked RNG engine by the Casino to suit their return demands but not make waves when it came to the gaming inspectors. Any lengthy collection of numbers wouldnt take him one single step closer to the perfect system. Not according to the strong and weak law of large numbers.



The VRTech pilot dont have complex bet strategies. The platform does all the job for them. They have only to decide the size of the units they want to bet, and of course the amount of units (very important) on each bet. As they become one with their fighter (platform) understanding the data presented to them as an ongoing analysis of the wheel, they come to develop an intuitive feeling if a offered bet situation is valid or improbable considering the available variance. Ordinary gamblers dont have that luxury.


They can only count wins and losses and apply various negative or positive progressions to compensate for losses that rocks their boat over the volatile waters of  the roulette sea.


What I can see so far is that what others are doing might be static while yours is more fluid.

The dynamics of the complex mathematics found in roulette, that includes advanced physics is way too much for a gambler to process.

Sure good VB players can make good estimations on where the ball might land but those are very few, and its an art that takes time. On online Casinos it is not even possible considering they often close the bet window once the dealer ha spun the ball.

In roulette, good knowledge of Game Theory is not enough. Its immense complexity demands an approach way more structured and as dynamically adaptable to the SUPPOSED RANDOMNESS of the wheel itself. What you discover if you study a large set of numbers from an RNG or a roulette wheel, though different, is still nothing more than a large set of numbers that converges in probability towards an expected value.

Here, the ignorant gambler, not aware of the special forces involved in the game, will perhaps win for a a while, and then lose some,  and then inevitably at a certain point be overcome by the parameters of the game he is bound to due to House rules and other external factors (EI effects).


"A spun number in roulette, is per itself a representation of a spatiotemporal event on the wheel." Theoretically, one could say this to be true with online digital roulette (not live play) even though there is no "spinning" or actual wheel.

Would you confidently be able to say spatiotemporal events *could* also occur on randomly computer generated numbers? Why or why not?

There is a measure of quantum entaglement involved in RNGs that makes the generator impossible to "beat".


Why, you may ask. It is because we are dealing with physics at a quantum level when it comes to what happens inside a RNG. One could posit a theory that thus you should achieve perfect randomness, but what is built by man can never achive perfection. Only a simulacrum of said desired reality.


I once had an extremely gifted Canadian test pilot in my team many years ago, that decided to challenge various RNGs at casinos like Betvictor, Dublin bet and so on. He posted the results on our forum and we all were astonished by the gains he made in any given session.

We talked anything between 200 units up to 700 units in one single session. He really developed his own personal way to crush those complex buggers with the monster platforms I developed at that time (usually over 50 Mb large files with hundreds of thousands of sub algos calculating the input data from an array of prime algorithms.) The platform today (S2) is only 800K large and reacts lightning fast compared to the old monsters that Canadian ace used.

And he played with real money so the guy made a small fortune in no time. Later he left us to continue his business at home, but the point I am trying to make here is despite my intial doubts he would even come close to beat the RNG with my platforms he still managed mess them up really good, all to my big surprise.

So...when it comes to RNGs one can never know. Thats is,  compared to a physical wheel and ts completely different matrix of involved variables.

You mentioned that you use basic sector probability and partition math and have made a nice tiny chart when playing in real casinos. Would you be interested in sharing this?


(smiles)...ah yes. I made a small chart based on a single formula when it came to the given frequency of any number. Much like the frequency found in music connected to various notes.

You used the two recent spun numbers as prediction for the next spin the chart presented (once you looked up the number in the chart).

You applied the simple formula (aHz + bHz)/2,  and made a small note your  tiny notebook if it where a win or loss. if your charts predictions had predicted a set of spins correctly, depending on the prediction distribution in said column you could bet instantly the offered value of the two latest numbers as a sector bet (13 numbers wide).

Sure it works for a while, if you sit at a land based casino. Sometimes you have to wait for some time before starting a game, and other times you are in the game after 6-10 spins and keep winning until you have three losses in a row where you stop. It is a fun little thing but highly unstable and not worth your time.

If the casino allowed an IPAD at the tables then I and my test pilots would really have fun with our VR platforms that offers marvellous overview, analysis, and suggestion on any given spin, considering the computing power todays Ipads offer its user.

]I make no assumptions. Thanks so much.

Jake[

You are welcome.
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Jake007

Re: Watch VR S2 making +200 units against Platinum Casino
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 04:33:05 PM »
It is always a challenge to format messages here :) especially when adding to ones thoughts. I was fully able to comprehend your reply and will begin watching and taking notes to the dozen+ youtube videos you have posted over the years here. Ultimately I will take what I have learned from you and adapt to what I am doing right now. You offer *great* insights if people will listen. I appreciate you offering what you have thus far. No need to give your system, but the hints are genius. True roulette players with a brain will take your hints, ideas, videos, and absorb them.

My system may not be like your system but I can learn from it and adapt to have my own winning system. Mathematically speaking, my own system does fail (with a loss of 52% bankroll) approx every 150,000 spins. And it has, once on me. I'm so far into profit that I could care less at this point in occurrence of another failure. However I always strive to make what I do better. I see "issues" with my system and I already see solutions to my issues thanks to your topics and notes.

Once again, I appreciate your willingness to share your notes and system comments.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2018, 04:36:12 PM by Jake007 »
 
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Re: Watch VR S2 making +200 units against Platinum Casino
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2018, 04:36:28 PM »


Always nice to encounter serious players ready to create a platform around their idea of predicting the outcome of any given roulette spin.

Glad to be of help.
 
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