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YoLo

How many test is enough?
« on: April 21, 2018, 03:29:24 PM »
Hello forum friends. I wanna ask a question, how many test is enough to consider a good system?
 

ignatus

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 03:36:48 PM »
For me, i do 10 test-sessions, (with a set wingoal/stoploss) if it holds like 8/10 wins, i do second 10 test session, it that also show, 8/10 wins etc, you got a "decent" system, ....from my experience , a losing system won't make it through 20 sessions,...and i've tested 100s of systems this way, so i know it's true...
 
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YoLo

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 04:21:47 PM »
I dont use a stop loss, but I do set wingoal. I wanna see how deep the BR takes to achieve the wingoal. I considere to run a minimum of 200 test/session.
 

dobbelsteen

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 09:00:50 PM »
What do you think to find with a testrun? Every system in the short run can end with a profit or a loss.. This depends on the number of spins. Before testing a system ,you have to make a testprotocol.
Do you test systems with a test tool or do you program the systems by yourself. I am very satisfied witht my Excel programs.
 

MickyP

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 09:41:18 PM »
Dobbelsteen, will you please clarify test protocol?
This could mean a lot as to how tests should be conducted.
 

petespin

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 10:04:44 AM »
Depending how long u play , the more u play ,u need mote spins to test.
 

MrPerfect.

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 10:23:51 AM »
If someone look precise numbers in precise conditions,  3 tests is enough. 
  If all tests show same- chance that it's due to its reasons is super high. Tests should be statistically significant. 
   If one tests bs random numbers groups...like these offered by casino in outside bets..  no test is enough.  36-37 degrees of freedom are more then many are able to understand. 
 

petespin

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 10:50:46 AM »
I. Ll ask somethin else that u related with this , Why u see different results under real conditions ( much better most of the time) , i mean wby does it happens? U perhaps experience with phenomenon as well, u may answer that in milions of spins it will balance at some way .
 

MrPerfect.

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 12:57:46 PM »
 Results depend on conditions that produce them. If conditions are favorable- it's all good, if it's not, job of player to recognise it. That's why we bother with data at the first place...
 

YoLo

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2018, 07:08:07 AM »
Ignatus is right, 20 session with winrate of 8/10 would be enough to considered decent..
 

dobbelsteen

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2018, 11:25:27 AM »
If you want to test something, you must ask  yourself what you want to test. When you want to compare test results, you must do the trials onder the same conditions with the same items. An EC system compare with a dozen system is useless. Mostly you want to compute the average outcome of a system. Every system will end with a loss of 2,7% on the long run. Before such test you must know when an trial is in the long run. In my theory the long run depends of the largeness of the number bet. Be very carefully with drawing conclusions!!!
 

YoLo

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2018, 12:56:50 PM »
Dobbelsteen, I don't compare EC with dozen, I've been trying to find what other calls HG and it stressed me out. Now I'm just trying to find a system that win more than losing. It would be enough. For 500 stop loss and 300 wingoal, 8/10 winrate is good enough for me. If it goes around like this all the time, I can say this is my HG. This is what I am asking. How many test is enough before I can be sure to put my money on real game?
 

MrPerfect.

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2018, 10:45:18 PM »
Yolo, l have been playing systems for a year before catching first scary moment.  It wasn't one system , but few together.  I even reduced work hours to spend more time in casino.... l was simply extraordinary lucky. Fortunately l understood that systems is road nowhere without prediction. I still play " systems" while l predict. Everybody does. Money management, triggers, stoplosses... everything is still there.
    If you wanna play roulette seriosly, remember one thing : first determine where to bet ( real reasons), then think wich systems to use to maximise profit potential.
    You will have no big HG, but many little ones , wich you can use when it's justified.
   And stop to look table, action is going on the wheel .
 
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YoLo

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2018, 06:41:21 AM »
Mr. Perfect, the problem is we dont have casinos in my country, it is forbidden. I only play live roulette. It goes 60 seconds to bet, after the 60 seconds done, then the dealer start to roll the wheel and the ball. In this case, we cant predict where the ball will land. Cos the wheel stops during betting period. It takes only 30-35 spins in an hour. So slow.
 

dobbelsteen

Re: How many test is enough?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 07:12:18 AM »
Yolo AP on live roulette is nearly impossible. There is no time to place your sector bet on the table Another problem is that the neighbor numbers are spread on the table. As MrPerfect write, systems, bet selection a carefully progression and a plan are the best tools for internet roulette.