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mr j

Tipping while not yet in profit?
« on: March 21, 2018, 01:47:05 AM »
This question is mainly for the men that go to B&M casinos.

Its a short question, kinda to the point. If you were down but got a hit, would you still tip?

I understand being UP and tipping but what about the opposite situation?

I sometimes get "bad" looks with no tipping (while being down).

Ken
 

Junscissorhands

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2018, 02:29:59 AM »
Have it all the time, it's f*cking annoying. I mean yes i do have like maybe 2 or 3 consecutive hits. Dealer keeps staring awkwardly for like a minute or so..other players at the table staring at you like like you're SCROOGE. F-ing hell. I DO NOT TIP when down..maybe when few chips up after breakeven. But some dealer just annoy me, how they look or handle or when they make a killing and you can see the dealer is happy on the inside making money for the casino. Once i was angry and playing with emotion, i just put a 1000 EURO chip on 1-18, and it dropped of course on 19-36. I could see the dealer trying to keep his laughter in and looked at the pit boss.  Luckily the next day i've slaughtered them with a 4K win. Who is laughing now ? D*ckheads.
 
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mr j

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2018, 02:38:08 AM »
I've even seen pit high five a dealer after wiping out a player. Real class.

Ken
« Last Edit: March 21, 2018, 02:54:09 AM by mr j »
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2018, 03:19:34 AM »
I never was in b and m casino. Are the dealers watching your bets before spin the wheel? Because if he/she saw where you plafed bets, it is easy for him to make you lose, expect you place bets after he released the ball.
 

petespin

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2018, 07:17:35 AM »
Giving tips is always good ,just think like them, if u were in their position did u wanted the same? Especially when it comes to roulette better to hsve them by your side but against u! .... Or play at aoto machines whete there is not dealer...
 

scepticus

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 10:13:45 AM »
Why tip at all ? Especially if you are at a loss .It is their JOB to spin . As for Dealer's Signature . This BS is designed to muddle your  thinking .  How can a dealer MAKE you lose if ,say , you bet a Dozen or EC  ?  Especially if you bet after he spins . Utter nonsense posing as "wisdom".  An excuse for LOSERS  !

Junorscissorhands .
What is your table bankroll if using $1000 chips ? $1000 chips ?  Jeez-s-s-u-u-s  C !
 

mr j

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 12:51:14 PM »
I "kind of" agree with the, why tip at all thought?

I was very much like this years back but have slowly adapted towards tipping (only in profit).

I like to do tips in the form of bets. Maybe, I'll bet $25 on a street for them.

Funny thing I have to do though, few will understand this. When you bet for the dealer, you usually tell them first, then they tell floor/pit. "A bet for the dealer". If it hits, they ALSO take the bet, I highly dont agree with that.

(everyone there knows me).....So, I tell them, I'm NOT betting $25 on the 10 11 12 street for you. Then I give a wink (lol). Odd? Yes but if it hits, I get my green chip back & they get their $275.

Ken
« Last Edit: March 21, 2018, 01:08:49 PM by mr j »
 

Mike

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2018, 01:08:28 PM »
Why tip at all ? Especially if you are at a loss .It is their JOB to spin .

I agree. I guess it's different in the USA but in the UK there isn't really a culture of tipping. In fact I think it's only been legal since 2005, and I believe it's still illegal in Australia. Partly because casino workers get a fairly high base salary so don't really need the tips (unlike in the USA perhaps), but mainly I think to avoid possible corruption and fraud.
 

mr j

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 01:12:06 PM »
The thing with tipping, what EXTRA can the dealer do for you if you tip? Nothing really and I dont want to hear, they'll hit your number/section FOR YOU if you tip. (lol). A load of crap. If you tip the BJ dealer, can he/she make it so you get more 21s? Of course not !!

Ken
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2018, 01:43:42 PM »
Few things do actually depend on a dealer. Their spinning habits can affect result . One could try to ask " longest spin posible" or " do not change a thing" kind of things.
   Surprisingly,  honesty in this sometimes makes miracles. Tipping may help, but better to persuade them with words instead of tipping. It's a very boring game for a dealer, repetitive.  Any challenge is fun..  for example you may say some story about previous dealer spinning 30 ball rounds wich permitted you to " find your numbers " on the felt, or something along these lines. .  Or " teach" dealer how to hit a zero....
    All depends on quality of your act, if you are good in persuasion, it may work to make them do what you need even without tipping. If not, no tipping will help you, their loyalty is normally with the house. Make it fun and they normally comply... avoid cretins with management intentions. It's very difficult to "beat a dealer "who knows what they do.... if they do it to much good, wait for other one.
 

mr j

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2018, 02:55:47 PM »
"avoid cretins with management intentions" >> Very true. and if I do tip and I dont get a THANK YOU in return, no more tips.

Ken
 

Junscissorhands

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2018, 10:30:45 PM »
ken if they would high five in front of me i would really throw a chip to the dealer's face, dead serious.

yea i was playing with 20 and 50 chips plein. The 1000 chip was from a hit. But then i've lost it..losing many chips thats when ive put the 1000 on low.

my most stupid gambling decision on my life was blasting thru 3000 euros.. i was chasing the 3rd dozen... 3 times i put it on the 3rd dozen..when i ran out of br the 3rd dozen hit.

i know most ppl say its bs.. but some dealers are douches..ofcourse they cant aim a sector..but they will want to hit a different one its their visualisation and wanting to hit where there are no high value bets.

 

mr j

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2018, 11:12:01 PM »
 "if they would high five in front of me i would really throw a chip to the dealer's face" >> I have seen it quite a few times including LAUGHING...but...the player has already left the table. They say stuff like..."what an idiot player" etc.

Its very clique like. With dealers, floor, pit and the players. You are either IN THEIR LITTLE GANG or you or not.

Ken
 
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Junscissorhands

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 11:23:09 PM »
that i know.. i only clique with the pretty lady ones. The rest i don't really care. Call it floaty or superstitious the ones i have a clique provide better results and winnings.
 

Fyodor

Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 11:48:58 PM »
Currently, the Casino laws and regulations for Australia do not allow "tipping" of croupiers.
This is to maintain a "wall" of impartiality as well as stopping on-the-floor
corruption of gaming staff.
What "corruption" you may ask?
Well, covert 'overpaying' of winning wagers, when table inspectors are distracted by
dispute resolutions on nearby tables, is the main (potential) offence.
Because "tipping" leads to social connection, leads to potential share-it-later collusion,
Casino staff must be seen to be honest and reliable servants of the "house".
Croupiers usually have an air of confidence, (that can border on arrogance) but that
can be shattered by a strong run against the house/table.
Tipping could exacerbate the playing atmosphere/conditions in both directions.
(1) Croupier receives tip (at start of play) from player (A) at busy table,
Player (A) wins, other players suspicions are fortified, atmosphere darkens!
Player (A) loses, did the Croupier spin against him? Atmosphere darkens!
(2) Croupier receives tip (after large payout) from player (A) at busy table.
Do they know each other, away from the Casino?
Did the Croupier deal favourably to player (A) wagering/chip placement?
In Australia have (noticed) many players with very high (usually unfounded)
opinions on regulatory compliance.
Tipping Croupiers would only add to their arguments.