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MickyP

Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« on: March 08, 2018, 10:20:06 AM »
Bet selection with using spin history; how effective would this be?

I'd like to call on all who criticise and mock the use of past spins to give advice to us who do use past spins on how we can manage our game without taking past spins into consideration.

The general concensus with the more seasoned/experienced players is that betting a few numbers is the key to winning. How do we select the few numbers to play without using recent spin  history?

Not everyone can master the AP bouncing ball method but I figured that bouncing ball history and spin history are both "independant" events that should not be relied upon to predict future results to the level of accuracy we anticipate.

The Kavouras bet is a static bet that covers 20 numbers. The odds of one of the numbers hitting is over 50% so expectation is that with a progression you will be able to manage the game to a win. Not so with only betting say 5 numbers. They could all sleep for a full 37/38 cycle.

Bet selection is a vital component of the game, let's avoid the stupid remarks and respond in a way that will help to enlighten the lost. This is your time to shine. Make it count.
 
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Janusz

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2018, 10:37:45 AM »
Betselection "without" : Very easy:
Take any number
Take any street
Take any doublestreet
Take any chance

approach any table and bet what you have chosen.

the chance to win?
plein : 1/37
street : 3/37
and so on.

If you do a very hard and complicated betselection:
the chance to win on:
plein : 1/37
street : 3/37
and so on

as long as you donĀ“t accept that, you will lose
 
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MickyP

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2018, 11:43:26 AM »
Janusz, thank you for pointing out the "without" error in my opening statement. Good attention to detail.

You could pick 12 random numbers and they may not appear in a 37/38 spin cycle. Surely consideration to bet selection can not be left to a thumb suck.
If you base your bet selection on a guess then playing more numbers seems logical as you want to avoid sleepers. Yet, playing more numbers will require a bigger bankroll to recoup losses.
The only way to reduce chip outlay is to play "cluster bets" starting with the table minimum but how to do this if you base your selection off the wheel?

Eliminate past spins from the equation. How will you create a winning method without the reference points that spin history provides?
 

cht

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2018, 12:26:20 PM »
Make a distribution study, say a particular wheel shows 60% reds in 100k spins.

Bet red when you are at the table without taking into consideration the recent history spins.
 

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2018, 12:48:41 PM »
The only system i use without looking at past spins is i pick 1 dozen, 2 double streets or 3 quads each one in every dozen. And i change them every spin. So i pick the bets as i where blindfolded trigger to bet is after 2 virtual losses when betting conditions are in my favor.

A nice and very random system. ( Another great one from Pale !! )   ;D
 

MickyP

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2018, 12:52:58 PM »
@chat  your example is still using spin history as a reference  that influences your bet selection.
Current and older spin history is still spin history.

@shadowBlue, you get the picture of what I'm trying to initiate a discussion around.
Thanks.
 

cht

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2018, 12:56:09 PM »
Here's how I played at a particular wheel where when the dealer released the ball in a certain fashion I bet a set of predetermined numbers else I abstain. Won 2grand that day, no reference to spin history.  :) 
 

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2018, 01:00:39 PM »
there is a reason why you need a spin history,, otherwise you can't predict the next result.

as an example...

32--latest result.
14
23
30
10
21
32
16
30
5
23
5 --- oldest in the history

can anyone predict the next result?
 

MickyP

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2018, 01:03:58 PM »
The next result will be the first number to determine the next XYY trigger in Palestis single dozen method.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2018, 01:05:33 PM by MickyP »
 

cht

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2018, 01:09:38 PM »
Even with that spin history plus a hundred more if you wish,  can anyone predict the next result ?

Look at the spin and/or frequency distribution not the history.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2018, 01:13:35 PM by cht »
 
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MickyP

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2018, 01:10:09 PM »
Shadowblue, why would two virtual losses indicate betting conditions are in your favour?
Are virtual losses not part of spin history?
 

MickyP

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2018, 01:21:27 PM »
@cht, I say no because each spin is independent. Spin history is a guide at best.
In the spin history posted by shapecode99 you can clearly see the formation of Palestis single dozen triggers. Two wins are recorded . One on spin two and the other on the first spin. What can I say... IT'S A GOOD SYSTEM.
 

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2018, 01:32:12 PM »
well... i can say that you don't know how to win roulette.

its not a dozen or hot, cold, sleeper etc..

the trigger to next result is in the history result.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2018, 01:34:59 PM by shapecode99 »
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2018, 01:38:50 PM »
I would go for 4/21/2....
 

Re: Bet Selection Without Using Spin History.
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2018, 01:44:25 PM »
its not 4/21/2 im afraid.  but nice try though.

it looks like 21 due to a trigger being spun in the history.

« Last Edit: March 08, 2018, 01:47:23 PM by shapecode99 »
 
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