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Real

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A Little Advice
« on: January 30, 2018, 07:50:17 PM »
Stop trying to hedge.  You can't win every bet without ensuring a loss.  Accept the fact that you're going to lose some bets. 

Stop looking in the rear view mirror.  Had you remembered to bet the number that just hit, then the number may not have hit on that spin.   The same thing applies to when you're not playing and you take a restroom break.  The numbers on that reader board are not the numbers that would have necessarily hit if you'd been playing.

Variance is your chance to win.  When you try to limit variance, you're essentially trying to limit your luck.  Betting only a handful of numbers gives you the best chance of winning big.  Stop trying to cover every corner, split and street.  It annoys everyone at the table because it slows down the game.

Stop betting on the freaking zeros!
It seems that every spin starts with an idiot betting one chip on the zero, another chip on the double zero, and then another chip splitting the zeros. ( This is stupid and stright up ghetto.)  After having tracked millions of spins on live wheels I testify that they're almost always random goats or much worse.  They aren't helping your bets.  When they get hot they tend to get more attention from the house during maintenance.  The odds of them becoming and remaining bias is almost nill!  They often suck for a reason.

In the US, bet the number 23 on newer wheels and the number 20 on older double zero wheels.
On single zero wheels bet the 15 and the 36.  Chances are the numbers will perform only at expectation, but these are among the most common biased numbers that I've found on some models of wheels.

Never ever ever play on RNG wheels.  If you can't bet after a real ball is in motion then the game is designed to cheat you.  Don't play it.  Especially if it's online.
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MickyP

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2018, 08:57:32 PM »
No. Bad advice!
 

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Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 11:04:58 PM »
Ha!  We all of course no that's not true because the advice is from me.  ::)

Kav, I'm a just again sayin, I should be able to thank my own posts!
 
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MickyP

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2018, 01:21:58 AM »
Wrong again! :o
 

Woke

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2018, 03:41:42 AM »
Ha!  We all of course no that's not true because the advice is from me.  ::)

Kav, I'm a just again sayin, I should be able to thank my own posts!

Hi Real.  Been perusing some of your recent posts, on how you made a lot of money at the Vegas wheels and such, for the past week or so and you can say I'm sort of a fan, if you will.  Congratulations.

I have two questions for you:  I'm familiar with dealer signature but are dealers capable of aiming for E/C bets.  For example if one were to bet big on Red, do they have the necessary skill to aim for Black.  Ditto for Odd/Even, Low/High.  Or is it essentially a stupid question since it's impossible.

Also, have you ever come across a rigged (magnetic board, etc) wheel anywhere that you have played and observed yourself? 

 

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Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2018, 04:00:09 AM »

Haha, thanks.  8)

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are dealers capable of aiming for E/C bets.

No.  If the wheel has a strong dominant drop they can try and shoot for larger sectors, but they aren't by any means good enough to have an effect on the ECs.  I suppose if they were on a wheel with a really good dominant ball drop and limited scatter that they could effect the probability of the ball hitting the red instead of the black just enough to overcome what probability would dictate, but the trouble is that along the way they'd increase the odds of hitting the single or double zero.

Most dealers have no idea what's required to shoot sectors, and many don't believe it's possible.  Some dealers will tell you that they seem to be able to hit on some wheels, but not others, and they'd don't understand why.  It's because they're rarely aware of the physics involved.  However... some are... and those few are pretty damn good.   Given a wheel with a very strong dominant ball drop, even a novice can learn to shoot sectors in less than a day of practice.

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Also, have you ever come across a rigged (magnetic board, etc) wheel anywhere that you have played and observed yourself?

I have come across a gazillion biased wheels.  In many cases the casinos were FULLY AWARE that the wheels were biased and would purposefully leave them on the floor because the wheels returned strong wins for them.  I have been in some major gaming disputes/investigations as a result of winning on some of them.  In one case, on the Las Vegas Strip, the casino tried to get out of paying because they didn't how we knew the wheel was biased, even though they had been aware of the bias for years!!!

I have come across electronic airball wheels that would NOT allow bets after the ball was spun.  Such wheels behave in VERY suspicious ways.

As a rule of thumb, players should never ever bet on a wheel if it doesn't allow bets, even on the outside, after the ball is spun and should assume that the machine or live wheel is a gaming device designed to cheat them!

By the way, I'm guessing I'll see in at Bally's in March?  ;)
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Woke

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2018, 05:18:58 AM »
Thanks for your prompt response. 

I forgot to mention, I was aware of sector shooting being quite possible as well, hence my specific question regarding the EC bets, even though I knew how ridiculous that sounds since Red and Black alternates every other pocket, and Odd and Even/Low and High alternates every one to two pockets, making it highly improbable to aim that specifically, one to two pockets at a time.  I only make EC bets, fyi.

Anyways, as long as you wagered after the ball has been spun (sorry, going back to the possibility of magnetic wheels question), you've pretty much thrived without a hitch during your successful run? On that note, are you still playing/winning? 

And, if you are referencing that I am someone you know with that last question, I can assure you I am not. 8)
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Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2018, 05:36:09 AM »
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Anyways, as long as you wagered after the ball has been spun (sorry, going back to the possibility of magnetic wheels question), you've pretty much thrived without a hitch during your successful run? On that note, are you still playing/winning? 

Hitches, several gaming investigations, several bannings, but always squeaky clean.  Yes, still thriving and having fun. :)   

Actually depending on the method I'm using I don't have to wager after the ball is spun. ( My main point was that people should avoid wheels that don't allow it because it usually means the machine or live game shouldn't be trusted.  If the game allows bets after the ball is spun, then chances are that it's safe to bet before the ball is spun as well.

I must ask, what part of the world are you in?
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Woke

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 05:40:44 AM »
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Anyways, as long as you wagered after the ball has been spun (sorry, going back to the possibility of magnetic wheels question), you've pretty much thrived without a hitch during your successful run? On that note, are you still playing/winning? 

Yes, still thriving and having fun. :)

Actually depending on the method I'm using I don't have to wager after the ball is spun. ( My main point was that people should avoid wheels that don't allow it because it usually means the machine or live game shouldn't be trusted.  If the game allows bets after the ball is spun, then chances are that it's safe to bet before the ball is spun as well.

I must ask, what part of the world are you in?

Wisconsin.  I'm a novice by years anyways.  I would love to pick your brain someday.  Probably more so on your trip report/routine in a way.  Keep on thrivin'.
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Woke

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2018, 05:53:04 AM »

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Hitches, several gaming investigations, several bannings, but always squeaky clean. 

  Now I really have to interview you.  That is quite interesting.
 

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Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2018, 05:54:51 AM »
Anything in particular you want to know?

 

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Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2018, 06:22:39 AM »
Woke,

I can't respond to the PM because I'm over my two PMs per hour.  LOL. 

I can be emailed at farnsworth3@hotmail.com
 

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Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2018, 06:10:21 PM »
Real
STOP BETTING ON THE FREAKING ZEROS ?
Amen  !Brother  Amen  !
 
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Woke

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2018, 06:32:40 PM »
Hi Real.  I sent you an email. 
 

Woke

Re: A Little Advice
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2018, 08:30:51 PM »
Do you play as group, Real, at a table per session?