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MickyP

Crossing over to AP
« on: January 22, 2018, 07:27:14 AM »
The last few months as an active member on the forum have indeed been an education. I have witnessed and been party to the battle of good vs evil; AP vs System players. General concensus puts AP as good because they are self proclaimed winners; and System players as evil because system don't win (in the long run). History is written by the victors.

AP have put forward some compelling arguments to justify their stance. They band together united under one banner.The same can now be said for System players. However, this is not a trashing session, so if you want to turn it into one rather create a new thread for that purpose.

I would like to hear from seasoned AP specialist on how they will advise a System player make the transition to AP?
A step by step course of action to eventually and confidently use AP methods to win.
 
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Mike

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 09:48:25 AM »
Mr Perfect has his own section on VB, have you looked there?

https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php?board=17.0

There is also a forum which is focused on AP methods here : https://rouletteplace.com/

 

MickyP

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 10:33:42 AM »
Thank you Mike.
I have read most of MrPerfect's threads on visual ballistics and have has several conversations with him on the subject.
I will visit rouletteplace.com as suggested.
 

Fyodor

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 12:32:53 PM »
I doubt that you will find anything of value at rouletteplace.
It contains a lot of dissociated ideas, fighting for attention, in an alien world.
 

MickyP

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 12:52:22 PM »
I spent some time on rouletteplace and am non the wiser. It's  like a group of nine people standing in rows or columns or groups of three or four. I'm not really sure how many people are standing there. Guess I'll have to carry on using my blind man's tap stick.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 01:07:15 PM by MickyP »
 

MickyP

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 02:46:18 PM »
I've been browsing R30 to pick up the crumbs of AP reference points. This one thread "Roulette systems don't work" has revealed enough to make me pay attention to the warning sign "BEWARE CROCODILES". It's best to cross over using the bridge and that's 20 miles downstream. I'll stay at this village for a while longer...
 

Sputnik

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 03:27:22 PM »


I will give you one advice.
If you follow it you will learn quick and can start playing soon.
But if you don't follow my advice you will learn nothing.

First things first, there is no known visual ballistic players on this forum that can teach you how to play.
And there is no section with any real visual ballistic material on this forum.

My advice is to do two simple things.

Send Real/Snowman a private message and ask if you can chat with him sometimes using skype.
If you don't know who he is i can tell you - he is a known legend among the AP community and in the same category as Laruance Scott.

Second you join myrulet forum where you can find complete visual ballistic methods to play.
Does are for free and if there is something you don┬Ęt understand you just post a question.

If you avoid and not listen to my advice you will never enter the world of visual ballistics and learn things the correct way.

Cheers
 

MickyP

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 03:35:37 PM »
Thanks Sputnik. Sounds like real solid advice. I'll look into it. Thanks again.

 

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Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 03:37:22 PM »
Thanks Sputnik.
 

scepticus

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 03:42:47 PM »
Sputnik
There is a forum that gives free tuition of VB
 Is it Myrulet?
 

Mike

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 04:37:15 PM »
@ Micky, you do realise that myrulet is just the parent site of the forum I already linked to above? I echo Sputnik's advice regarding Real, although he's more of a biased wheel specialist.

@ scepticus, yes you can learn basic VB for free at myrulet.
 
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MickyP

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 06:29:15 PM »
I went to myrulet  and it's more like an online shopping network. Maybe because I didn't register and log in I had limited access.

I am exploring vb at this moment and will not spend a cent until I'm sure it's a route I want to take. I do not want a roulette computer. I do not want a dealer signature timer. I do not want anything that can be deemed as cheating.
I want to be able to play honestly without some form of hidden assistance. Can this be done on modern wheels?
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Sputnik

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 07:34:00 PM »


Well well well - here you are with our questions at roulette forum 30 - when you should ask does questions at myrulet forum board.
Now if you would have register and join the AP community you would be part of something - but now you only part of writing questions and developing roulette systems at roulette forum 30.

I don't want to offend you but you need to put some work behind your agenda.
Start making new contacts.
Then afters some weeks things will start to come your way.

For example a chat with Real/Snowman - i had many and there is a time gap between our countrys - but i got lucky to catch him early in the morning - we talk and he teach me things and told me great storys.
So everything does not come on a silver plate.

You have to ask your self the following question - do you want to learn more and get deeper understanding about the nature of the game that involve physics - then you will read about Roulette Computers - wheel signatures - VB among other things.
That takes time - no quick fix.

I will for the last time reply to your question with this topic - after that is up to you to decide what you want.
Yes you can use headcount and estimate ball and clocking rotor without any kind of device.
But that is hard skill to master and need practice.
Some methods work with pattern recognition doing the same thing using ball/rotor combinations.

Other option is to download a metronome app to your mobile phone and make the setting vibrating with no sound and use it as tool when clocking ball/rotor.

Cheers
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Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 07:48:51 PM »
My suggestion is that you take some pictures of the wheels in the casinos near you then PM/email one of us.
From the pictures we can tell you which models of wheels you have and recommend the best strategy.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 08:00:10 PM by Real »
 
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palestis

Re: Crossing over to AP
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 08:21:14 PM »
I am exploring vb at this moment and will not spend a cent until I'm sure it's a route I want to take. I do not want a roulette computer. I do not want a dealer signature timer. I do not want anything that can be deemed as cheating.
VB works if you have the ability to pay extreme attention and be totally concentrated while you are doing it.
Here is an example on how VB works:
Take the results of 21/1/2018.  TABLE-1.
We concentrate on one dealer: Which is the blue region I marked. (--   --   -- on the table means a new dealer took over until the next -- -- --).
Since the wheel alternates direction, we choose one direction to make it easier. But monitoring both directions is ok too as you  develop observational dexterity .
For this example I observe the number FROM to the number TO. (start to landing).
Initially there was a consistency in spinning where the landing ended up between 7 and 11 spaces clockwise.  (yellow highlight). Then it changed to between -8 to -17 (counterclockwise pink circle).
You can practice based on this model and you may find that you will be able to observe spinning consistencies. (From start to landing  the results fall within a narrow space on a wheel region).
The problem is that not every wheel will work like that. You have to check several for those consistencies. Or follow the dealer as he goes to another table if he is steady in spinning.
Look for dealers that keep the same spinning speed and wheel speed  approx. the same.
I am sure that European casinos start the spin from the last number spun. (give and take a couple of spaces on either side).

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