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Roulette From my set of eyes.
« on: December 21, 2014, 02:49:29 AM »
This is my first post on this forum. So please give me a break.

Facts known about roulette not the game itself but the wheel. We all know the wheel has no memory. Take any thing that works mechanically, it has no memory as to what happened a minute ago. Hence we have the black boxes that record data in airplanes. Which enable us to reproduce what happened and avoid mistakes or disasters.

What system builders are doing is taking the black box(old spins) and start to analyse the data based on the system they want to make win.

Lets think outside the box for a minute.

From the black box we have statistics that have been proven to be correct +/- 1%.
One good example is we know in a 37 spin cycle we have XX amount of unique numbers and YY amount of unseen numbers.
Lets add standard deviation to the above unknown numbers.

Having the above solves 90% (under my estimates) of guess work with the wheel. The wheel that has no memory. Yes 10% is a lot to deal with. 10% of 37 is 3.7 number's.

A good mathematician based on payout has always said bet up to 6 number's and no more.

By using the right approach and good understanding of previous set of numbers. Roulette can be beaten.

There is only 2 things going against a human player:
1) Human greed of never ever getting satisfied with the amount won per session.
2) Not been able to control oneself from going into tilt.

The best practice any roulette player can first do is:
Practice to control his/her greed.
Practice to be under control when things go wrong at the table.


This is how I look at, how roulette can be beaten in the long run.

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Re: Roulette From my set of eyes.
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 04:02:56 PM »
Good post Azim

im sure you are still winning with GUT

i personaly came back to GUT as it is the only way to survive to roulette withe the proper bankroll
best from france

hope you will post more good info in this forum


Re: Roulette From my set of eyes.
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 08:53:19 PM »
Thanks. I always try.


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Re: Roulette From my set of eyes.
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 10:23:27 PM »
Hello Azim and welcome.
We are very glad to have you post here!

Re: Roulette From my set of eyes.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 04:17:44 AM »
Hello Azim. Welcome to the forum. Very good and important observation.  I think along the same lines as well.  If you get the opportunity, I have posted a pdf file of the book " Ten Days at Monte Carlo at the Banks Expense" in my section of the forum.  There is a couple of the pages that coincide with your way of thinking. 

To quote the book, "A very essential point about a good system is simplicity.  The more elaborate and complicated your system may be, the more certain it is to fail.  There is no doubt that the croupiers will be on the look-out for the moment when you begin to get into deep water, and then, by spinning quicker than usual, they will prevent your working out any elaborate calculation to arrive at the amount to be staked.  They will flurry and bustle you, and endeavor to make you lose your head and your temper, at critical moment, and from what I have seen myself and from what players themselves have told me, it is very certain that they often succeed. 

It is no use people attempting to play a system unless they are specially qualified to undertake it.  A few indispensable qualities are, a clear head, unlimited faith in the system, dogged perseverance, the best of good tempers, and plenty of pluck. Anyone who does not possess all of the above qualifications, in addition to a few others, had better leave systems alone; for to play a system impatiently, timidly, or with insufficient capital is quite the surest way to lose."

"Most systems fail because the stakes are increased too quickly: the player gets into big figures, strikes a run against himself, and is either defeated by the maximum, or from want of capital."

"The fact of the matter is that he is too greedy, and has not the sufficient patience.  If he commences by losing, he is in too much of a hurry to get his money back.  If he wins, at first, he stays on at the tables too long and exhausts his good luck, winning small sums, and when the bad luck sets in, he begins playing high stakes and losing."

I agree with what you say. I am a firm believer in that we should plan ahead of time when to play and when to walk away.  My golden rule when I play is that my goal is to win just 10% of my bankroll. That's it.  Most people laugh at this idea. They all expect to double their capital, and most of them hope to make 400-500%. But the bank in a good year only makes about 1% a week and about 50% for the year. That is still a huge gain.  To put in another perspective, if we play once a month, that is 10% a month multiplied by 12 months in a year is 120% return on your investment.  Most investments in the stock market at best are 25 to 30%.  This makes us dangerous players when we play this way. Because unlike the bank, we can get up and walk away whenever we want.

Very nice observation and keep up the good work and once again welcome to the forum.



Re: Roulette From my set of eyes.
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 06:37:04 AM »
Thank you.  I read the first chapter.  Amazing, how people observe same things, differently.



Re: Roulette From my set of eyes.
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 01:58:14 PM »
In my reply of part one  I wrote my approach of the roulette game.

The black boxes after a crash content a lot of important data from the past. From these data we can learn what there was wrong and  we can use these data to learn how we can avoid the failures of the past.

I use the statistic results of a random streak  to predict future trends.

From the past we can learn and the future we don`t know. Some statistic features are indisputable