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Badger

Law of the Third
« on: September 16, 2017, 09:34:31 AM »
I found this on VLS forum :

"Finally, the 3rd example of 3-pattern EC bets {rrr,bbb,rrb,bbr,rbr,brb,brr,rbb}

1 + 8/7 + 8/6 + 8/5 + 8/4 + 8/3 + 8/2 + 8/1

Number of trials needed to get 1 pattern is: 1.00
Number of trials needed to get 2 different patterns is 2.00
Number of trials needed to get 3 different patterns is 3.00
Number of trials needed to get 4 different patterns is 5.00
Number of trials needed to get 5 different patterns is 7.00
Number of trials needed to get 6 different patterns is 10.00
Number of trials needed to get 7 different patterns is 14.00
Number of trials needed to get 8 different patterns is 22.00

Remember that in this case, a "trial" is not a spin but 3 spins (to make up each pattern)."

How would one construct a bet using the above patterns? Does one bet for a repeat of a pattern?
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2017, 09:51:14 AM »
Don't wanna be annoying, the thing is, low of third was just an excuse made by one AP about his win.
   Things like expectation do average with time, but time frame here can be anything. It's not mean that averaging will happen while you are betting. It can happen before you observed event or later , when you stopped betting.
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Badger

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2017, 11:07:36 AM »
Thank you for your reply, Mr Perfect.

I'm not really concerned about LOTT.
I was wondering how those patterns were used.
Do they play for a repeat of a colour?
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2017, 12:08:13 PM »
They just count how many times color or dousen ( or anything ) have hit in "x" ( put any number) spins, then , if something is hitted "too much" more then basic probability dictate, they bet opposite.  It's done due to belive that things have to level out with time.
   Hope it helps. If you wanna persue such a thing, make sure you understand basic probability of event . It will help you to make nessesary calculations.
   P.S. Use on your own risk, it have never been really proved to work.
 

Badger

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 12:43:42 PM »
If the following numbers come up :
1,33,7,24,14,35

I see someone playing like this :
spin 2 : bet on number 1
spin 3 : bet on numbers 1,33
spin 4 : bet on numbers 1,33,7     etc,etc

Now the colours for the above sequence are : rbrbrb
So patterns rbr and brb have come up.
How do I physically place bets to cover a number of patterns.
So lets say that I want to play for a repeat of rbr and brb, how do I do that?

Sorry, I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 12:49:36 PM »
Just note... 1,33,14,7,35... they are all in same half of wheel. According to low of third you should start to bet other half of wheel. But l myself would back up the one is already hitting :).
 

Badger

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 12:52:46 PM »
LOL Thanks Mr Perfect.
I see you have a good eye for a bet.
However, I just made up the numbers to make my point.

I know each pattern is 3 spins. Just don't know how to use the info to make my next bet.
 
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Reyth

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 05:42:18 PM »
The LotT does not have to be used exlusively with a sleeper mindset.  It is a statistical phenomenon that cannot be explained away as "one man's false story". 

It is a phenomenon where in 37 spins an average of 1/3 of the numbers will sleep, hit & repeat, respectively.

This objective and undeniable statistical fact, can be used in many different ways over varying spin sample sizes.

Sputnik works very deeply with patterns, he would be a great resource for ways to play them.
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Badger

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 08:23:27 AM »
Thanks Reyth

I want to learn more about playing patterns. I imagine that with the example that I gave,
that I would use a matrix. I understand the pattern breaker way of playing, where you play
the opposite of the last result in the matrix.
So I imagine that playing for repeats would be playing for a repeat in the matrix.

RBR
BRB
So here I would be playing B for a repeat.

The example in the LOTT confused me as I was wondering, how do you lay down a bet for RBR and BRB simultaneously.

Many thanks for the reply's
 
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Sputnik

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2017, 08:59:50 AM »
I solve the HG and Birstday Paradox, i attach all Three files.
 1) eriscott HG
 2) Birstday Pardox discussion
 3) Nick excel sheet

Both eriscott and the Author for the Birstday Paradox got it wrong and i have the solution.
You need to read both documents to understand the five bet solution to cover all compinations no matter what 6 uniq combinations you got with the random flow.

Here is one example where the assumption from both is wrong.
For example lets take this string of formations

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP

Now the assumption is that if you get PP next you can not match with PPB or PPP as both alredy has hit.
But this is wrong.

If you look at the sequense again you also see that all P combinations has hit.
So even if we would get PB we could not match with PBB or PBP as both alredy hit.

Here is the sequense again.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP

Now you bet Before you have a result and you bet P once with one single bet and you cover all previos four patterns to have a chance to repeat once, no matter if you get PP or PB.

PPB PPP PBP  PBB BPP BBP P

Easy and it takes a total of five bets to cover all possibilitys from this position.
Assume you got a B result, then you can see above that we have BPP and BBP.
This means that if you get BP next you would bet P and if you got BB you would bet P next.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BP
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BB

But lest say you have a new situtaion similiar towards the PPB and PPP example where you can not bet both.
For example BPP and BPB where both begin with BP and you not match your next bet to cover the two possibilitys.

And again the solution is similiar as the first one.
You only have to wait for one B to show and bet P next to cath the begining of the formation BP.
One single bet.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BPB BP
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BPB BP

This work as a cancelation march where you then force for a non repating formation to show.
So we cover both situation with one single bet each.

Now to the final stage where you have seven formation and only one missing pattern to complete the hole cycle to alternate with no present repeats.

For example with following sequense:

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BPB

Then you have to bet up to Three times to cover all possibilitys.
Total five bets with the othe two bets.

And again we are using the cancelation term.
As all four formations with P patterns has a show, then the only way to cover all possibilitys to Catch one repat among the them is to bet P once.
If a loss you force the beginning of the last B pattern to show, which is missing or will repeat.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB P
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BPB B

Now assume we don't get a repeat of the previos P patterns and we get a B result.
Then we again face a situation where we have to patterns that begin with the same formation and end with two differen results, BPP BPB.
So our next bet after B show is for P once to cover the BP formation and cover both patterns BPP BPB to repeat once.

Now to the last final cancelation bet and we have lost four bets with no present repeat.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB BB

Here you simply bet for BBB to repat once and if not then you have 8 uniq patterns show with no present repeat.

This might not improve the original or change any thing, but i just want to show have you cover all possibilitys to repeat once with placing a total of five bets.
As the autors of both Writings argue you can not cover a situation where two similiar patterns has a show, which is wrong.

Cheers

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB BBB
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB BBP
 
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Badger

Re: Law of the Third
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2017, 09:33:31 AM »
Many thanks Sputnik

It's going to take me a while to understand all that.
I'd like to get back to you once I understand
Thanks again.
 
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