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#### dalex1983

##### Dozens or columns no 0
« on: May 25, 2017, 12:59:32 AM »
The dozens are the same as the columns......12 numbers 2:1......but the wheel doesn't let you play for example a dozen like 1 3 5 13 16 19 20 23 26 28 30 36..........there are still 12 numbers normally the odds are still 2:1 but its impossible to play them.

People expect that after a dozen or column comes up 5-6 times or more.....they can bet on the other 2 dozen's or column's even if the progression looks like this: 2-6-18

Can somebody help me to determine how many dozen's are?

Of course excluding the 0.......if you see one just run.

#### juice

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2017, 01:27:37 AM »
Dalex, not exactly sure what you are doing but I think you shou,d contact Harryj  on this one. Go to the single dozens post by palestis and you will find a method similar to what you are referring to, woven into the thread by Harry. He calls them " the odd dozens". It is located about in the first third of the topic. Good luck, juice

Ps. If you start around page 8 that would be good but the progression I think is on page15
« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 01:42:33 AM by juice »

#### Ainz

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2017, 11:05:06 AM »
That's a combination:
C3612 = 36! / ( 12! x (36-12)! )= 1.251.677.700 different sets of 12 numbers.

#### palestis

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2017, 10:22:13 PM »
The dozens are the same as the columns......12 numbers 2:1......but the wheel doesn't let you play for example a dozen like 1 3 5 13 16 19 20 23 26 28 30 36..........there are still 12 numbers normally the odds are still 2:1 but its impossible to play them.
If you are asking how many dozens there are,  they are 3:  1-12,  13-24,  25,36.
The difference of 12 scattered numbers on the wheel is that you can't play them as a group.
You have to bet each numbers individually. Where a traditional dozen can be bet with 1 chip.
But the end result is the same 2:1. It's just cheaper to bet a dozen.
I am not sure if that's what you are asking. But you clearly asked how many dozens are there.

#### scepticus

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2017, 12:11:28 AM »

Dalex
I have previously given a different 3 Sets of 12 numbers which may interest you.
These are ;
1-4-7-10-14-17-20-23-27-30-33-36
2-5-8-11-15-18-21-24-25-28-31-34
3-6-9-12-13-16-19-22-26-29-32-35
These may be regarded as chaotic as they each contain  numbers which are  Red-Black-Odd -Even-High -Low -
And have numbers in the 3 Dozens and the 3 Columns.
As always, of course , we need to CHOOSE which - and WHEN  !

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#### trojan

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 06:33:26 AM »
The dozens are the same as the columns......12 numbers 2:1......but the wheel doesn't let you play for example a dozen like 1 3 5 13 16 19 20 23 26 28 30 36..........there are still 12 numbers normally the odds are still 2:1 but its impossible to play them.

People expect that after a dozen or column comes up 5-6 times or more.....they can bet on the other 2 dozen's or column's even if the progression looks like this: 2-6-18

Can somebody help me to determine how many dozen's are?

Of course excluding the 0.......if you see one just run.

I believe the answer for all permutations of a dozen within 36 numbers is this: 1 251 677 700

Using   n! =   r!(n – r)!

#### SugTips

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 01:18:44 PM »

Dalex
I have previously given a different 3 Sets of 12 numbers which may interest you.
These are ;
1-4-7-10-14-17-20-23-27-30-33-36
2-5-8-11-15-18-21-24-25-28-31-34
3-6-9-12-13-16-19-22-26-29-32-35
These may be regarded as chaotic as they each contain  numbers which are  Red-Black-Odd -Even-High -Low -
And have numbers in the 3 Dozens and the 3 Columns.
As always, of course , we need to CHOOSE which - and WHEN  !

Thanks God.
Good Morning All.

Thank you Scepticus Sir for this Amazing and Excellent Info.

Sir is there a way to track it easily, like how many times our dozen is missing or hitting, like that.

thanks.

#### scepticus

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2017, 03:50:28 PM »

Hi sugtips
If you are looking for the Holy Grail of Roulette then I am not your man . I think that  the best we can do is make bets which have reasonable expectations of success.
I seem to have a different perspective of betting than most members here as my focus is more on not losing than winning . There is no magic in those 3 different twelves .What they do is provide more options.
I’ll provide a method of utilising it in my thread Scep’s Roulette Strategies because I have not presented it  there before now.
You will need to THINK about it -  and be prepared to be bored  !

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#### dalex1983

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2017, 01:58:50 AM »

Hi sugtips
If you are looking for the Holy Grail of Roulette then I am not your man . I think that  the best we can do is make bets which have reasonable expectations of success.
I seem to have a different perspective of betting than most members here as my focus is more on not losing than winning . There is no magic in those 3 different twelves .What they do is provide more options.
I’ll provide a method of utilising it in my thread Scep’s Roulette Strategies because I have not presented it  there before now.
You will need to THINK about it -  and be prepared to be bored  !

Good argument but, after doing some research, dozens are made up of 13 numbers not 12. And the bets should be put after 13 numbers came up. The 14th time and never repeat your bet after a win.

And the triggers well look like this in a impossible perfect way that rarrley happens and well provides a win.

I've been betting for the last 8 days in online roulette with real dealears because you have more time to bet a lot of numbers(~6hours a day continous play). There was only profit in those 28 games i've played. But the waiting was a kill buzz.

The bet consists in 13 numbers that have this trigger.

The trigger is very abnormal because that was the idea, and is for interval's(not numbers) and looks like this: 13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1. The 14th time is the bet on those 13 numbers with THOSE EXACTLY INTERVALS.

For example 29 has 13 misses, 19 has 12 misses, 22 has 11 misses, 12 has 10 misses, 27 has 9 misses, 8 has 8 misses, 4 has 7 misses, 10 has 6 misses, 35 has 5 misses, 30 has 4 misses, 0 has 3 misses, 3 has 2, 14 has 1.

The 14th time we bet 29, 19, 22, 12, 27, 8, 4, 10, 35, 30, 0, 3, 14

I had a bankroll ready to triple the amount but i didn't have too.

When not to bet?

Well, when the intervals look like this: 13,12,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 or worse 13,11,10,9,8,7,6,4,3,2,1 or even worse 12,10,9,8,7,5,3,2,1

Thats when the law of large number's come in to place and nobody knows how and when  exactly it really works. And it is our worst nightmare.

But it's clear that it doesn't like patterns that can't predict twice.

I have more data in real play, but i don't know how to make a formula in excel for this.

I've tried doing this by hand on the data i have, takes a lot of time but worked well in a 2400 spins with one lost but never had to double because of the wins before.

I've tried doing this by playing, that was nice no loses, but i dont like that.

If somebody can make a formula please share!

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#### SugTips

##### Re: Dozens or columns no 0
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2017, 06:39:43 AM »

Hi sugtips
If you are looking for the Holy Grail of Roulette then I am not your man . I think that  the best we can do is make bets which have reasonable expectations of success.
I seem to have a different perspective of betting than most members here as my focus is more on not losing than winning . There is no magic in those 3 different twelves .What they do is provide more options.
I’ll provide a method of utilising it in my thread Scep’s Roulette Strategies because I have not presented it  there before now.
You will need to THINK about it -  and be prepared to be bored  !

Hi Scepticus Sir.