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#### kav

##### The Sure Win Method
« on: December 24, 2016, 01:07:54 AM »
The Sure Win Method

The only principle to this system is that any even chance will repeat itself and usually quite frequently. Have you ever noticed that red or black nearly always runs in groups?  There will be occasions where it will chop sometimes several times but that will not be a problem if you show patience. I believe I have a way to eliminate losses from this.

Your first bet will be on any even chance. If you win, then leave both units on the same bet. If you win a second time, pick up your bet and return to one unit. This is the procedure on every session. If you lose, place the next bet in your progression and try to get a parlay.. The progression is shown below. A win and parlay on any step will show a profit .On any profit return to the beginning of the series. When the table is choppy you will sometimes lose several parlays.  Remember that each parlay is only 1 bet. My suggestion is not to fight a choppy table or long run of the opposite of your bet but stop after 3 losses and wait until your choice shows again.

Decide where your level of comfort is and use it to make your decision as to how long to go. Here is the progression:
1-1-2-2-3-4-5-7-9-12-16-22-29-39-52-69-92-123   A total of 488 units.

Here was a game I played recently:
1L
1W PW
1W PL
1 L
2 L
2 W PL
3 W PW
1 L
1 W PW
1 L
1W PL
2 L
2W PL
3W PW
1 W PW
1 W PW
1 L
1W PW

Profit of 20 units.

Very simple, yet effective.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 12:23:19 PM by kav »

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#### Reyth

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2016, 02:33:21 AM »

Thanks for sharing this!

Do you mind if I ask how it does on recovery once you have placed 9 successive losing bets?

#### kav

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2016, 06:28:32 AM »
When you win you parlay one time and if you win again you stop.
After 9 losing bets you bet 12 and if you win you bet 24. If you win the second bet you stop.
It always offer a profit after a parlay win.

#### funtomas76

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2016, 06:54:37 AM »
I agree that repeating the even chances is mostly better than betting the opposite.

Maybe after three losses in a row you should switch from red/black to even/odd or so.

Kav, what are you doing if after the first win comes zero? Parlay anyway?
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 08:13:19 AM by funtomas76 »

#### Reyth

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2016, 08:59:49 AM »

Do you mind if I ask how it does on recovery once you have placed 9 successive losing bets?

When you win you parlay one time and if you win again you stop.
After 9 losing bets you bet 12 and if you win you bet 24. If you win the second bet you stop.
It always offer a profit after a parlay win.

While the progression shows 18 steps I have never used more than 9. Decide where your level of comfort is and use it to make your decision as to how long to go.

#### beretta28

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##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2016, 09:31:14 AM »
Ridiculous! I missed a parlay 30 times.
20 times very common

#### Bayes

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2016, 10:06:57 AM »
Yeah I have to agree with beretta, this is nothing more than a martingale for 3-1 bets. I regularly see no double wins on the ECs for 50+ spins. The record was 81 spins.

#### Sputnik

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2016, 12:16:20 PM »
Theory as i don't want to talk about my own methods.

Take dozen and they hit twice with dozen 1 and 2 then dozen 3 is at sleep.
We can only win once betting that dozen 3 will show for the next 3 attempts.

This mean that we have a window where two dozen repeat five times in a row.
How many times can that happen, i have show you the match at other topic.

Now if you can develop a MATRIX using EC with the odds 1 in 3 - then formation for the missing event would allow you to win two in a row.

For example i have a single R and a serie of two BB this two events would conintue to hit five times in a row with out a serie of three or higher will show.
Where you clearly could win twice.

One more example, a single B and a serie of three RRR and they would hit for five times in a row with out a serie of two showing, wish would have result in winning two in a row.
Same with following combinations, serie of three and one single and one serie of two and a single.

There is a sequense or one property state that is a tie and not working when you aim to win two in a row - that is a serie of two and three or the other way around - as you would aim to Catch the formation of one single and that formation would not allow you to place two bets and win two in a row.

The advantage with this method is that the power behind the selection method and Carch variant.
That would be 12 stages or levels with three attempts with a total of 36 bets.

Here is the frequense a property fall into sleep and where two states dominate.

Miss 1 time: 67.56% ( or 1/0.6756 =once every 1.48 spins)
Miss 2 times: (25/37)^2 = 0.4565 = 45.65% (or 1/0.4565 =once every 2.19 spins)
Miss 3 times: (25/37)^3 = 0.3084 = 30.84% (or 1/0.3084 =once every 3.24 spins)
Miss 4 times: (25/37)^4 = 0.2084 = 20.84% (or 1/0.2084 =once every 4.79 spins)

...etc... so. rounded up

Miss 5 times = once every 7 spins
Miss 6 times = once every 11 spins
Miss 7 times = once every 16 spins
Miss 8 times = once every 23 spins
Miss 9 times = once every 34 spins
Miss 10 times = once ever 50 spins
Miss 15 times = once every 358 spins
Miss 20 times = once every 2542 spins
Miss 24 as Mogul said = once every 12K spins
Miss 34 as notto said  = once every 615K
Miss 50 times = once every 326M spins
Miss 100 times = once in a blue moon and stars, planets, meteors all aligned together
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 12:18:27 PM by Sputnik »

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#### kav

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2016, 12:26:29 PM »
I agree that repeating the even chances is mostly better than betting the opposite.

Maybe after three losses in a row you should switch from red/black to even/odd or so.

Kav, what are you doing if after the first win comes zero? Parlay anyway?

A zero is a loss, so you don't parlay after that.

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While the progression shows 18 steps I have never used more than 9.

This is not actually me saying that (I deleted that comment now) but the guy who created this system.

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#### Sputnik

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2016, 01:09:17 PM »
Here you can see Theory in real sample from todays random org file:

WW
LLL
WLWLWLWLLWLLWW
WW
LWW
LWLLWLWW
LWW
LLL
LWW
LWW
LLWW
WLLWW
WW
WW
LWW
LLWW
LWW
WLWW
LLL
WW
LWLWW
WLLWW

And here i only attack a property or state that is Clean from bias and where you have only two state present.

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`12211 W1 W22112222211121121 L2 L1 L21211222112211221222211 W1 L122 W2 L211 W1 L1122 W2 L12 L2 W2 L12 L2 W1 W22 W2 W212 1 L1 W2 W12 L2 W1 L2 L2 W1 L1 W1 W112222212221211212 L2 W2 W2121 L2 L1 L1212 L2 W2 W11111112212111222112222111122122212 L2 W1 W1111221222212 L1 L1 W2 W11 W2 L1 L1 W1 W211 W2 W22211112211212222211211 W1 W212 L2 W1 W21 L2 L2 W2 W2121 L1 W2 W2212111211211 W2 L2 W2 W2222222121 L2 L1 L1222222222122211 W2 W211212212112111212 L2 W2 L11 W2 W11 W2 L1 L1 W1 W222`
Brett Morton in hes book playing to win claim to flat betting using Three attemps a base betting and turn 1000 units into 4000 units - this is the reason i look into this subject.
But i use the EC with the odds 1 in 3 as that is better then 50/50 if you look at repeats, domination and bias.

This works nice as indicator for trading the market.

« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 01:16:01 PM by Sputnik »

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#### scepticus

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2016, 04:15:33 PM »
I think that betting long progressions is dangerous and should be avoided.
I also think that a one-step parlay on EC is preferable to single bets .They all depend on a reasonable Bet Selection .

#### Sputnik

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2016, 04:29:36 PM »
We all have our own agenda - i considering using the method above among other when travelling Europa visiting different casinos - also look into sportbetting.
All this to build stronger bankroll and my goal is to reach 20K Before i start making my first trip.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 04:32:08 PM by Sputnik »

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#### scepticus

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2016, 06:37:29 PM »
True, sputnik.
We all have our own agenda !
why change when what we do works for us ? Our " Comfort Zone  .

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#### mogul397

##### Re: The Sure Win Method
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2017, 03:46:49 AM »
You feel alright?